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		<title>Comment on WWF-Russia rolls out scare-machine in advance of IPCC&#8217;s AR5 by Brian H</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 10:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gives life and meaning to the title &quot;Piled higher and Deeper&quot;.  What would we do without PhDs?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gives life and meaning to the title &#8220;Piled higher and Deeper&#8221;.  What would we do without PhDs?</p>
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		<title>Comment on PAGES2K&#8217;s Progress and NatureGeoSci&#8216;s peer-review lite by Antoinette F. Pace</title>
		<link>http://hro001.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/pages2ks-progress-and-naturegeoscis-peer-review-lite/#comment-2512</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antoinette F. Pace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kaufman and paleo peer reviewers ought to be aware that the recent portion of varve data can be contaminated by modern agriculture, as this was a contentious issue in relation to Mann et al 2008 (Upside Down Mann) and Kaufman et al 2009. Nonetheless, Kaufman et al 2013 (PAGES), despite dozens of coauthors and peer review at the two most prominent science journals, committed precisely the same mistake as his earlier article, though the location of the contaminated data is different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaufman and paleo peer reviewers ought to be aware that the recent portion of varve data can be contaminated by modern agriculture, as this was a contentious issue in relation to Mann et al 2008 (Upside Down Mann) and Kaufman et al 2009. Nonetheless, Kaufman et al 2013 (PAGES), despite dozens of coauthors and peer review at the two most prominent science journals, committed precisely the same mistake as his earlier article, though the location of the contaminated data is different.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wastelandia: Andrew Weaver et al&#8216;s big green choru$ and $ymphony &#8230; in the key of Gore by Brian H</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 12:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S.;
As a BC resident, too, I despise contributing to the enrichment of his Al-Hole and the Whacked Weaver. But I have great faith that their presumptions and postulates will result in them shooting off their own or each others&#039; feet soon enough.  The Law of Inconvenient (but Logical) Consequences will assure that.  Vide CCX.  Reality is not kind to attempts to put fake hanging chads into the data box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.;<br />
As a BC resident, too, I despise contributing to the enrichment of his Al-Hole and the Whacked Weaver. But I have great faith that their presumptions and postulates will result in them shooting off their own or each others&#8217; feet soon enough.  The Law of Inconvenient (but Logical) Consequences will assure that.  Vide CCX.  Reality is not kind to attempts to put fake hanging chads into the data box.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wastelandia: Andrew Weaver et al&#8216;s big green choru$ and $ymphony &#8230; in the key of Gore by Brian H</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 12:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The climate is more and more firmly, as the gigayears progress, under the control of the biosphere.  Even the high cloud cover and beyond is home to countless bacteria.  If conditions turn untoward, a little ramp-up of this, and ramp-down of that, and things are restored to rights. Not because of the all-knowning Gaia, but because that&#039;s how negative feedback, especially magnified and leveraged by opportunistic microbes et al., works.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The climate is more and more firmly, as the gigayears progress, under the control of the biosphere.  Even the high cloud cover and beyond is home to countless bacteria.  If conditions turn untoward, a little ramp-up of this, and ramp-down of that, and things are restored to rights. Not because of the all-knowning Gaia, but because that&#8217;s how negative feedback, especially magnified and leveraged by opportunistic microbes et al., works.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wastelandia: Andrew Weaver et al&#8216;s big green choru$ and $ymphony &#8230; in the key of Gore by Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)</title>
		<link>http://hro001.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/wastelandia-andrew-weaver-et-als-big-green-choru-and-ymphony-in-the-key-of-gore/#comment-2507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 22:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Andy,

Very interesting!  All of which goes to show that consistency of &quot;the science&quot; has never been a strong point amongst the green dreamers, has it?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Andy,</p>
<p>Very interesting!  All of which goes to show that consistency of &#8220;the science&#8221; has never been a strong point amongst the green dreamers, has it?!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wastelandia: Andrew Weaver et al&#8216;s big green choru$ and $ymphony &#8230; in the key of Gore by Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)</title>
		<link>http://hro001.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/wastelandia-andrew-weaver-et-als-big-green-choru-and-ymphony-in-the-key-of-gore/#comment-2506</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 22:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Alex!

You mention the &quot;frequent&quot; snowfall events you&#039;ve been experiencing in the U.K. .. which reminded me that one of the things that boggled my mind when I first stepped onto this &quot;battlefield&quot; was encountering Viner&#039;s &quot;children won&#039;t know what snow is ...&quot;  

You see, my recollection of my early childhood years in the U.K. (Birmingham and Llanelly) is that we very rarely had &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; snow - although I knew that there were other parts of the country that did..

IOW, it was a very (what we used to call) temperate climate, similar to that which persuaded me to &quot;migrate&quot; to the Lower Mainland of British Columbia - in the years before its politics became polluted by the likes of Andrew Weaver ;-) 

Then, again, perhaps my memory just ain&#039;t what it used to be!  And perhaps my recollection is somewhat coloured by the fact that when we emigrated, we landed in Sault Ste. Marie ... where winters are very, very cold ... and one gets lots and lots of the white stuff, as one does in other cities in which I resided before I relocated to the Best Coast!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Alex!</p>
<p>You mention the &#8220;frequent&#8221; snowfall events you&#8217;ve been experiencing in the U.K. .. which reminded me that one of the things that boggled my mind when I first stepped onto this &#8220;battlefield&#8221; was encountering Viner&#8217;s &#8220;children won&#8217;t know what snow is &#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>You see, my recollection of my early childhood years in the U.K. (Birmingham and Llanelly) is that we very rarely had <em>any</em> snow &#8211; although I knew that there were other parts of the country that did..</p>
<p>IOW, it was a very (what we used to call) temperate climate, similar to that which persuaded me to &#8220;migrate&#8221; to the Lower Mainland of British Columbia &#8211; in the years before its politics became polluted by the likes of Andrew Weaver ;-) </p>
<p>Then, again, perhaps my memory just ain&#8217;t what it used to be!  And perhaps my recollection is somewhat coloured by the fact that when we emigrated, we landed in Sault Ste. Marie &#8230; where winters are very, very cold &#8230; and one gets lots and lots of the white stuff, as one does in other cities in which I resided before I relocated to the Best Coast!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wastelandia: Andrew Weaver et al&#8216;s big green choru$ and $ymphony &#8230; in the key of Gore by Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 05:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Maxine :-)

Great to see you commenting here, btw!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Maxine :-)</p>
<p>Great to see you commenting here, btw!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wastelandia: Andrew Weaver et al&#8216;s big green choru$ and $ymphony &#8230; in the key of Gore by Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 04:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In NZ, the methane from compost comes under our ETS, therefore there is a disincentive to put green waste in the council recycling.

There are some major flaws in the logic behind all this anyway. methane from rotting vegetation and also from ruminant animals is part of the natural carbon cycle. methane break down into CO2 and water after about 10 years, from whence it came in the first place.

Everyone uses the 21 figure for GWP but this seems to be based on one study only, referenced in IPCC literature, and is based on some rather esoteric calculations that have little to do with physical reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In NZ, the methane from compost comes under our ETS, therefore there is a disincentive to put green waste in the council recycling.</p>
<p>There are some major flaws in the logic behind all this anyway. methane from rotting vegetation and also from ruminant animals is part of the natural carbon cycle. methane break down into CO2 and water after about 10 years, from whence it came in the first place.</p>
<p>Everyone uses the 21 figure for GWP but this seems to be based on one study only, referenced in IPCC literature, and is based on some rather esoteric calculations that have little to do with physical reality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wastelandia: Andrew Weaver et al&#8216;s big green choru$ and $ymphony &#8230; in the key of Gore by alexjc38</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alexjc38]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 21:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Food-waste receptacles (plastic &quot;caddies&quot;) are being distributed to homes and workplaces in the UK as well; we&#039;ve received a few from our local council. Your excellent and (as always) thorough investigation of BC&#039;s waste management has revealed a whiff of something somewhat more pungent than kitchen scraps! I haven&#039;t done the same due diligence yet, over here, but since we&#039;re now basically a province in the EU empire (synonymous for bureaucracy in the name of all things green) it wouldn&#039;t be too surprising to lift the lid on similar goings-on.

We have two large composters in our back garden, fortunately, so our kitchen waste can go directly to where it can do some good, rather than create a stink in the house. As for those plastic receptacles, I find they are very handy - for storing road salt to scatter on the ice in our driveway, when we have &quot;rare and exciting&quot; (but all too frequent, of late) snowfall events.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food-waste receptacles (plastic &#8220;caddies&#8221;) are being distributed to homes and workplaces in the UK as well; we&#8217;ve received a few from our local council. Your excellent and (as always) thorough investigation of BC&#8217;s waste management has revealed a whiff of something somewhat more pungent than kitchen scraps! I haven&#8217;t done the same due diligence yet, over here, but since we&#8217;re now basically a province in the EU empire (synonymous for bureaucracy in the name of all things green) it wouldn&#8217;t be too surprising to lift the lid on similar goings-on.</p>
<p>We have two large composters in our back garden, fortunately, so our kitchen waste can go directly to where it can do some good, rather than create a stink in the house. As for those plastic receptacles, I find they are very handy &#8211; for storing road salt to scatter on the ice in our driveway, when we have &#8220;rare and exciting&#8221; (but all too frequent, of late) snowfall events.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wastelandia: Andrew Weaver et al&#8216;s big green choru$ and $ymphony &#8230; in the key of Gore by Maxine G Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maxine G Walsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 13:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What stunning information on many levels,not the least of which is that in this case B.C. isn&#039;t even buying &quot;local&quot;. Great research Hilary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What stunning information on many levels,not the least of which is that in this case B.C. isn&#8217;t even buying &#8220;local&#8221;. Great research Hilary.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CBC and Camp Weaverland vs reality by grumpydenier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grumpydenier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 10:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cracks in the dam are appearing in the BBC&#039;s approach to AGW/CC. Once the sceptics start getting a larger share of air time ,the alarmists will have to debate the science and not just hide behind hyperbole.

Historically, it&#039;s been difficult to get them across the table facing sceptics (q,v, Gavin Schmidt vs Roy Spencer) and every refusal will undermine the strength (such as it is) of their arguments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cracks in the dam are appearing in the BBC&#8217;s approach to AGW/CC. Once the sceptics start getting a larger share of air time ,the alarmists will have to debate the science and not just hide behind hyperbole.</p>
<p>Historically, it&#8217;s been difficult to get them across the table facing sceptics (q,v, Gavin Schmidt vs Roy Spencer) and every refusal will undermine the strength (such as it is) of their arguments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CBC and Camp Weaverland vs reality by Brian J BAKER</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian J BAKER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 10:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hilary Still a bad result. FPP might be a lot of things but the bastards want preference voting or STV because government can then be decided in closed doors after the election just as we in UK did with the LibDems]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilary Still a bad result. FPP might be a lot of things but the bastards want preference voting or STV because government can then be decided in closed doors after the election just as we in UK did with the LibDems</p>
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		<title>Comment on CBC and Camp Weaverland vs reality by Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 20:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good question, Rick.  I don&#039;t know what the &quot;market share&quot; of ABC and BBC might be, but here in Canada, CBC seems to be experiencing &quot;diminishing returns&quot; which - in the eyes of some - is perceived as an &quot;audience crisis&quot;.  See:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mediatrends-research.blogspot.ca/2013/05/cbcs-audience-crisis-cbc-tv-audience-is.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CBC’s Audience Crisis: CBC TV Audience is Down 40%, Lowest in History&lt;/a&gt;

Perhaps if they surrendered their cheer-leading green-heart-on-sleeve advocacy and returned to their &quot;&lt;strong&gt;duty to provide consistent, high-quality information upon which all citizens may rely&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; - in accordance with their &quot;Journalistic Standards and Policies&quot; - they might stand a chance of recovering.  

But they don&#039;t appear to be taking any steps in this remedial direction!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Rick.  I don&#8217;t know what the &#8220;market share&#8221; of ABC and BBC might be, but here in Canada, CBC seems to be experiencing &#8220;diminishing returns&#8221; which &#8211; in the eyes of some &#8211; is perceived as an &#8220;audience crisis&#8221;.  See:</p>
<p><a href="http://mediatrends-research.blogspot.ca/2013/05/cbcs-audience-crisis-cbc-tv-audience-is.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CBC’s Audience Crisis: CBC TV Audience is Down 40%, Lowest in History</a></p>
<p>Perhaps if they surrendered their cheer-leading green-heart-on-sleeve advocacy and returned to their &#8220;<strong>duty to provide consistent, high-quality information upon which all citizens may rely</strong>&#8221; &#8211; in accordance with their &#8220;Journalistic Standards and Policies&#8221; &#8211; they might stand a chance of recovering.  </p>
<p>But they don&#8217;t appear to be taking any steps in this remedial direction!</p>
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		<title>Comment on CBC and Camp Weaverland vs reality by Rick Bradford</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Bradford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 11:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ABC*, the BBC and the CBC -- all government stations, all wedded to the Left/Green philosophy and all worse than each other in their own special ways.

Is there any need for these publicly-funded entities in the modern world?

* Australia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ABC*, the BBC and the CBC &#8212; all government stations, all wedded to the Left/Green philosophy and all worse than each other in their own special ways.</p>
<p>Is there any need for these publicly-funded entities in the modern world?</p>
<p>* Australia</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BitBucket]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 19:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Hillary, for someone who gets upset about CBC &#039;censoring&#039; your posts, [snip -hro]

&lt;strong&gt;Hilary&lt;/strong&gt;: Listen, kiddo ... I&#039;m &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; sorry that on your planet, whatever education you &lt;em&gt;might&lt;/em&gt; have received has obviously failed to teach you:

a) Any manners

b) The meaning of &quot;[...] &lt;strong&gt;I don’t intend to waste my time responding to [your] comment(s)&lt;/strong&gt; [...]&quot;

c) That there&#039;s a &lt;strong&gt;BIG&lt;/strong&gt; difference between my posts on my own blog and any censored comment I might have made on a post by Canada&#039;s National Broadcaster - which no one has shown to be in violation of their submission guidelines.  If &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; choose to think that there&#039;s some sort of equivalence here, then that&#039;s &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; problem, not mine!

I gave you the benefit of the doubt after your first &quot;comment&quot; - and an opportunity to clean up your act - by placing you on moderation.  You &lt;strong&gt;chose&lt;/strong&gt; not to.

This third &quot;comment&quot; of yours is no better.  In fact, the word-count in your off-topic drivel couched in sneer &#039;n smear word salads has escalated from 43 to 92 to 140.

So that&#039;s three strikes ... &lt;strong&gt;You&#039;re out&lt;/strong&gt;! Time to go find another playground to pollute with your silly thread-derailing games.

My blog, my rules. You don&#039;t like &#039;em?  Tough nuggies, kid!

 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Hillary, for someone who gets upset about CBC &#8216;censoring&#8217; your posts, [snip -hro]</p>
<p><strong>Hilary</strong>: Listen, kiddo &#8230; I&#8217;m <em>very</em> sorry that on your planet, whatever education you <em>might</em> have received has obviously failed to teach you:</p>
<p>a) Any manners</p>
<p>b) The meaning of &#8220;[...] <strong>I don’t intend to waste my time responding to [your] comment(s)</strong> [...]&#8221;</p>
<p>c) That there&#8217;s a <strong>BIG</strong> difference between my posts on my own blog and any censored comment I might have made on a post by Canada&#8217;s National Broadcaster &#8211; which no one has shown to be in violation of their submission guidelines.  If <em>you</em> choose to think that there&#8217;s some sort of equivalence here, then that&#8217;s <em>your</em> problem, not mine!</p>
<p>I gave you the benefit of the doubt after your first &#8220;comment&#8221; &#8211; and an opportunity to clean up your act &#8211; by placing you on moderation.  You <strong>chose</strong> not to.</p>
<p>This third &#8220;comment&#8221; of yours is no better.  In fact, the word-count in your off-topic drivel couched in sneer &#8216;n smear word salads has escalated from 43 to 92 to 140.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s three strikes &#8230; <strong>You&#8217;re out</strong>! Time to go find another playground to pollute with your silly thread-derailing games.</p>
<p>My blog, my rules. You don&#8217;t like &#8216;em?  Tough nuggies, kid!</p>
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